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		<title>IVF Cost at Sims International Fertility Clinic, Ireland</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The same day as I sent my letter requesting information on the IVF cost, IVF success rate and IVF procedure to the Sims International Fertility Clinic in Ireland I had a reply requesting my address so that they could send me an information pack. Shorty a very informative information pack arrived in the post. Much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same day as I sent <a href="http://www.ivfcost.net/ivf-cost/letter-requesting-ivf-cost-ivf-success-rate-and-other-information" target="_blank" title="IVF Cost Letter">my letter </a>requesting information on the<strong> IVF cost</strong>, <strong>IVF success rate</strong> and <strong>IVF procedure</strong> to the Sims International Fertility Clinic in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ireland </span>I had a reply requesting my address so that they could send me an information pack. Shorty a very informative information pack arrived in the post.</p>
<p>Much of the information in the pack is also available on their website which can be found <a href="http://www.simsclinic.ie/" target="_blank" title="IVF Cost at Sims, Ireland">here</a>. I must admit that I have spent quite some time going through the wealth of information that they have there &#8211; I also found that I liked their style of presenting much of the information, certainly worth a look.</p>
<p>The success rates for Sims can also be found on the website, I have reproduced them at the bottom of this post for your convenience.</p>
<p>The pack included a full price list for their treatments. Below are the prices, with approximate US$ equivalents in <span style="color: #ff0000;">red</span>, for the principal treatment procedures. Their treatment procedure charges include planning and co-ordination, ultrasound scans (carried out as part of the procedure), administration, anaesthesia, doctors / nursing fees and laboratory fees. Embryo freezing and storage for one year is also included if required. Medications, blood tests and counsellors fees are not included.</p>
<p>IVF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4,150 Euro<span style="color: #ff0000;"> (approx. US$5,654)<br /></span></p>
<p>ICSI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4,450 Euro <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$6,061)</span></p>
<p>IVF with Donor Sperm&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4,720 Euro <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$6,428) </span>(inc. cost of donor sperm 550 Euro <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$750) </span>per cycle)</p>
<p>IVF with egg donation&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8,400 Euro <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$11,440) </span>(includes donors; screening; counselling fees; consultation and compensation)</p>
<p>ICSI with egg donation&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8,710 Euro <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$11,863) </span>(includes donors; screening; counselling fees; consultation and compensation)</p>
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<p><strong>Sims IVF Cycles using Fresh Embryos (Non-Donor Eggs)</strong></p>
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<td>Female Age</td>
<td>&lt;35</td>
<td>35-39</td>
<td>&gt;40</td>
<td>All Ages</td>
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<td>Pregnancies per Transfer</td>
<td>46%</td>
<td>36%</td>
<td>24%</td>
<td>39%</td>
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<p><strong>Reference Group Comparison:</strong></p>
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<td style="height: 25px;">Ireland National Average (Excluding Sims Clinic)*</td>
<td>
<p>30.4%</p>
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<td style="height: 35px;">EU Average*</td>
<td>30.1%</td>
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<td style="width: 343px; height: 36px;"><strong>Sims Clinic</strong></td>
<td style="width: 18px;"><strong>39.0%</strong></td>
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<p>&nbsp;* Based on the most recent IVF data reported from the European Society of Human Reproduction &amp; Embryology, published in &#8216;Human Reproduction&#8217; 2008; 23: 756-771, Oxford University Press.</p>
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<p><strong>Sims Cycles using Donor Eggs (Pregnancies per Transfer):</strong></p>
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<td style="width: 357px; height: 39px;">European Donor Egg Programme</td>
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<p>67%</p>
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<td style="height: 35px;">Anonymous Donor</td>
<td>58%</td>
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<td>Known Donor&nbsp;</td>
<td style="width: 45px; height: 36px;">29%</td>
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<p><strong>Reference Group Comparison:</strong></p>
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<td>Ireland National Average**</td>
<td>Unavail</td>
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<td>EU Average*</td>
<td>39.6%</td>
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<p>* Based on the most recent IVF data reported from the European Society of Human Reproduction &amp; Embryology, published in &#8216;Human Reproduction&#8217; 2008; 23: 756-771, Oxford University Press.</p>
<p>**&nbsp;Sims Clinic is the only institution in Ireland offering published information on this service in Ireland, so no external reference group is available for comparison</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong> </strong>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Sims IUI&#8217;s (Intrauterine Inseminations):</strong></p>
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<td style="width: 357px; height: 39px;">IUI (H) &#8211; by husband/partner</td>
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<p>9%</p>
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<td style="height: 35px;">IUI (D) &#8211; by donor</td>
<td>30%</td>
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<td>IUI All Cycles</td>
<td style="width: 52px; height: 38px;">16%</td>
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<h2>Understanding Success Rates</h2>
<p>IVF programmes do not always use the same criteria to report results. It is important to understand exactly what the numbers mean when looking at percentages. In our hands the following terms apply:</p>
<p><strong>Biochemical Pregnancy</strong>: Positive home pregnancy (urine hCG) on Day 16</p>
<p><strong>Clinical Pregnancy</strong>: An ultrasound confirmed pregnancy with a fetal heart beat detected.</p>
<p>Results are usually quoted per embryo transfer (ET) and on some occasions per cycle, where cycles refer to egg recoveries.</p>
<p>Rates quoted per embryo transfer and per cycle differ in that the later includes those patients who had egg recoveries but did not subsequently have an embryo transfer. This may have been due to a failed fertilisation, elective freeze or failure to reach the blastocyst stage in a blastocyst cycle.</p>
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		<title>IVF Cost at Human Assisted Reproduction, Ireland (HARI)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received an acknowledgement to my letter requesting information on the IVF cost, IVF success rate and IVF procedure from Human Assisted Reproduction Ireland (HARI) the same day that I sent it, and the reply below on the following day. As can be seen this clinic is aimed at those resident in Ireland, however, if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received an acknowledgement to <a href="http://www.ivfcost.net/ivf-cost/letter-requesting-ivf-cost-ivf-success-rate-and-other-information" target="_blank" title="IVF Cost Letter">my letter</a> requesting information on the <strong>IVF cost,</strong> <strong>IVF success rate</strong> and <strong>IVF procedure </strong>from Human Assisted Reproduction <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ireland </span>(HARI) the same day that I sent it, and the reply below on the following day. As can be seen this clinic is aimed at those resident in Ireland, however, if you are one of those then, although I do not have the costs her you can check their website <a href="http://www.hari.ie/" target="_blank" title="IVF cost at HARI, Ireland">here </a>where you will find a full list of their charges.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #000080;">Thank you for your email. &nbsp;I think the best way to answer your questions is<br /> to say that the HARI Unit is really set up to provide treatment services for<br /> people domiciled in Ireland. &nbsp;We do not have any agreements with clinics in<br /> the UK or elsewhere to monitor, provide prescriptions or deal with problems<br /> our clients may encounter. Sorry we can&#8217;t help you further but I am sure<br /> HFEA can provide you with the information you need on clinics in the UK.</p>
<p> Kind regards<br /></span> <span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; color: #000080;"><br /> Marie-Louise</span></p>
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		<title>IVF Cost at Cork Fertility Centre, Ireland</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same day that I sent <a href="http://www.ivfcost.net/ivf-cost/letter-requesting-ivf-cost-ivf-success-rate-and-other-information" target="_blank" title="IVF Cost Letter">my letter</a> requesting information on the <strong>IVF cost,</strong> <strong>IVF success rate</strong> and <strong>IVF procedure</strong> to Cork Fertility Centre in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ireland </span>I received a reply asking me to telephone and speak to the Nurse Manager, Mary McAuliffe, regarding my questions.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get round to calling immediately but within a few days I had a call from the Centre. The conversation was very informative and the answers to my questions were as follows:</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What is the current success rate for your clinic? (preferably by age as I know that the success rate will be much lower for somebody of my age)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The success rate has not been measured for my age group but is said to be 5% or less. The overall take home rate is 38%.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How many cycles do you perform per year at the clinic?<br /></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">They perform 500 &#8211; 550 cycles per annum.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What is the maximum age that you treat?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">The maximum age that they treat is 45 (ouch, I&#8217;m getting pretty close!)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Are there any fertility conditions that you will not treat?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The only time that they will not give treatment is when it is almost impossible to succeed and they genuinely cannot assist. This will generally depend on the FSH level (at 14/15 they will not give IVF, at over 10 the chances of success are low) and the condition of the ovaries. However each case is treated individually.<br /></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What is your embryo transfer policy? How many embryos will you replace at one time?<br /></span></p>
<p>In under 35 year olds they try to transfer just one embryo; normally they can transfer two, however if the embryos are poor quality and the woman is older then they can transfer three. The quality of the embryos is a big deciding factor here and they do not want to transfer too many due to the dangers attached to multiple births.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What is the basic cost of the IVF treatment?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The basic cost of IVF is Euro 3,750 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$ 5,090), <span style="color: #000080;">ICSI is Euro 4,250 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$ 5,775).</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What additional costs would / could be incurred?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The embryo selection is an extra Euro 800 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$1,090). <span style="color: #000080;">Drugs are extra, for Irish couples they have a Drug Payment Scheme (DPS) that limits the amount they pay for drugs to Euro 90 per month, however for international patients these will be the same cost as you can get at home.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">What happens to the costs if the cycle has to be abandoned?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">If the cycle has to be abandoned the cost will be dependant on the stage at which the cycle is abandoned. If the cycle is abandoned during stimulation the cost is Euro 950 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$1,300)<span style="color: #000080;">; if</span></span> no eggs are collected the cost will be Euro 2,200 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$2,990)<span style="color: #000080;">, if the eggs fail to fertilise the cost will be Euro 3,000 <span style="color: #ff0000;">(approx. US$ 4,080).</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How long would I need to be in Ireland for?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The time that I would need to be in Ireland for would be approximately two weeks.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Who deals with the logistics of flights and accommodation?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">I would need to deal with my own transport and accomodation although they could give me guidance if required.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How is the pre-treatment carried out?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">They do an assessment to determine the pretreatment.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How do I get medication?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">The Centre will give me a prescription which can be filled at my own pharmacy.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How will I be monitored?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">I would be monitored through scans at the Centre.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">How will I know that I am not being under / over stimulated?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">I would be monitored through scans at the Centre.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If I have a problem whilst in the UK who would I go to?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000080;">I would go to my own GP or local hospital.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Is the clinic registered with any regulatory body?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">The clinic is regulated by the IMB (Irish Medicines Board)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">The contact details for the Cork Fertility Centre are:</span></p>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">Cork Fertility Centre </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">Fernhurst House </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">College Road </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">Cork </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">Ph: 021-4865764 </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">Fx: 021-4865763 </span></div>
<div><a href="mailto:admin@corkfertilitycentre.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: x-small;">admin@corkfertilitycentre.com</span></a></div>
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