To date this is certainly my favourite response to the letter I sent to IVF clinics – and it’s not just because he thinks this site is fantastic! It is so clear that Dr. Banerji really read and understood what I was asking and then took the time to answer all of my sixteen questions directly and fully. On top of that it was a fast response – the morning after I sent the email.
If you check out their website at http://www.idealfertility.com you will find some excellent information, their email address is dpankar@idealfertility.com. There are also the costs for local accomodation within 1 km of the clinic given on the website.
Since Dr. Banerji has answered my questions so directly to save you having to go between my letter and this response I have added the questions that I asked in red.
I think the big thing that has really warmed me to Dr. Banerji is that his response is full yet personal and I feel a real honesty coming through, along with a real pride in the work that they do. This clinic will certainly be on my short list!
I went through your site mentioned. It was fantastic
I am putting my heart to tell the truth of my center, so that you can help yourself or help others if you feel we are capable enough to handle the international patients.
IVF is a process needs complete transparency with the couple undergoing the treatment .There should be freindly and most informal dicussion between the doctor and the couple. I never believe in counsellor.
Its me, who the couple should believe, and has full right to watch my work. We are total in-house working team. I am a gynecologist and my wife is one of the best embryologist (a qualified pathologist). Now I am answering the questions
1. What is the current success rate for your clinic? (preferably by age as I know that the success rate will be much lower for somebody of my age)
1. Success rate : < 30 yrs. 45.2%, 30-35yrs 23% and above 35yrs. 10-12%. There are number of factors which affects success rate even in low age group
2. How many cycles do you perform per year at the clinic?
2. Number of cycles per yr. 500 to 600
3. What is the maximum age that you treat?
3. We treat upto 55-60 yrs. After 38-39 we prefer egg donation.
4. Are there any fertility conditions that you will not treat?
4. no professional surrogacy or egg donation.
5. What is your embryo transfer policy? How many embryos will you replace at one time?
5. Embryo transfer policy: We do Day 5 blastocyst transfer. 2-3 maximum (as blstocysts are usually less in number), We do not do single embryo transfer. To lessen the multiple pregnancy rate, we stimulate with less drugs and get less eggs, but good quality eggs. Lesser the embryos, better the embryos and go to blastocyst. Only best embryos goes to blastocyst and then transfer them.
6. What is the basic cost of the IVF treatment?
6.Cost of IVF : US$ 2500 and ICSI US$ 3000
7. What additional costs would / could be incurred?
7. No other costs involved for the treatment (no hidden cost), lodging boarding extra.
8. What happens to the costs if the cycle has to be abandoned?
8. Cycle cancellation because of poor stimulation (less than 3 eggs) : cost of used drugs, investigation charges, our consultation fee, sonography charges are taken, rest of the money is given back (the amount is on sole descretion of the doctor, but usually it is half of the amount).
9. How long would I need to be in India for?
9. In India : you need to stay for one month – one and half month. It can be reduced if part of the treatment is started in parent country. Then we reduce the cost those drugs what couple used from our charges, but it is our cost in India.
10. Who deals with the logistics of flights and accommodation?
10. Logistics of flight and accomodation : definitety we help. In my site it is there, how to reach us. Accomodation is there and to and from airport taxi facility is there at an extra cost.
11. How is the pre-treatment carried out?
11. Preparation of treament: Usually the reports are asked first to assess the ovarian reserve, endometrial lining and semen and cycle regularity. One oral contraceptive is started form day 2 and we call them on day 17 of the cycle before finishing the OCs. Injection luprolide is started on 17th or 18th tablet of OCs. OCs finishes on 22nd day of cycle and Injection continues .After the withdrawal period of OCs, we assess the aievement of Down regulation. It is either by sonography and/or Estradiol. After that we start Actual gonoadotropins, we use highly purified Gonoadotropins ( if couple wishe for recombinant one then the cycle cost will be more), but highly purified gives same results.
12. How do I get medication?
12. Medications can be sent through courier ( but it is difficult, because of regulations), hence we tell patients to come to us for full treatment.
13. How will I be monitored?
13. Monitoring is usually by sonography. If required we do hormones.
14. How will I know that I am not being under / over stimulated?
14.For hyper /under stimulation: you can see the sonography screen and if required estradiol assay.
15. If I have a problem whilst in the UK who would I go to?
15. In UK where to go : I do not know the health care facility there.
16. Is the clinic registered with any regulatory body?
16. Clinic is ISO 9001-2000 test tube baby center: JAS-ANZ.
Any thing you need extra: It is given in my web site: About Us page
Hope this will help.
If you can do an advocay campaign for indian centers to get recognised by NHS then treatment will be cheaper and faster. We are equipped with state of the art instruments of world and with worldclass disposables.
It was a long answer, but I liked your questions.
Bye
Dr.D’Pankar Banerji MS
Consulting Gynecologist and Infertility specialist
Ideal Fertility :ICSI/IVF and Genetic Center
1st Floor,Deshbandhu Complex.
Naudra Bridge,Jabalpur 482001 MP,INDIA
www.idealfertility.com Ph: +91 761 2627711, 00919826166952
Khamla square,Shivneri appt. Nagpur ( second sundays of the month )
I would like to know the total cost of the IVF treatment including medicines. I appreciate your reply.
Sri
i would like to know the best and successful doctor at delhi for ivr as my tube are damage
Hi Geeta,
It is so difficult to judge who is the best and most successful doctor – partly because they tend to use different statistics to record success.
It would be great if anybody who has used a clinic in Dehli, or anywhere else in the world, would be kind enough to share their experiences and recommendations.
All the best, and do let us know how you get on.
Sue
I think you can try Gangaram Hospital. They have some of the best doctors. Their published records too are good. You can contact Dr. Sweta Mittal.
I think a cost of 1,50,000.00 INR is what is actually required. In some cases it can be lower still – as low as 70,000.00 INR (But not in Gangaram).
Another good doctor in Delhi is Dr. Archana Dhawan Bajaj
Hi Partha,
Thank you for the information and costs – very useful.
All the best,
Sue
i want to know best ivf centre at jaipur -rajasthan and what is cost of ivf at jaipur
and i also want to know that is this procedure painfull or normal.
Hi Neeraj,
It is very difficult to assess which is the “best” clinic anywhere, especially since even success rates do not seem to be calculated in the same way for all clinics.
Having not yet been through the procedure myself I don’t know how painful it is. If you look at Momofone’s postings at http://www.ivfcost.net/ivf-cost/ivf-cost-at-victory-art-laboratory-malaysia-great-reply she outlines the procedure – she has even done a video of the injections that are required.
All the best,
Sue
Great Post…..
I found your site on stumbleupon and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!
Thanks for sharing….
Dear Sue,
Great website. Thought you and your readers would be interested in my exchange with Dr. Banerji from Ideal Fertiltiy. A disappointing response to say the least.
Rita
Dr. D’Pankar Banerji,
I sent an email to you through your website, but have not heard back from you and am worried that you may not have received it.
My wife and I are hoping that you can assist us in having a baby through ivf with donor eggs.
Some questions:
1). First of all, does your clinic do ivf using donor eggs?
If so,
2). What are your success rates in terms of live births?
3). What is the limit to number of embryos that you transfer in one cycle?
4). We are from Canada and wonder if you have treated other couples from North America, particularly Canada.
5). How many ivf cycles does your clinic do per year?
6). How long has your clinic been operating?
7). What is the cost of an ivf cycle using donor eggs?
Thank you for your time in this matter.
-sent February 6, 2010 *note: this was the 2nd attempt to contact the doctor at this clinic. He acknowledges this in his response to me.
dateSun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:23 AM
subjectRe: fertility treatment
hide details 3:23 AM (9 hours ago)
Dear
I did recieve your mail earlier.
We are doing good job here since 10 yrs.
IVF with egg donor Cost: US $ 5000
Your question are regarding our credibility….
How can we assure anybody that we are good, until unless you interact. Better you meet me and see our work and then decide whether you will take treatment from us.
I think writing and mailing is useless and wastage of time.
Bye
Dr.D’Pankar Banerji MS
Consulting Gynecologist and Infertility specialist
Ideal Fertility :ICSI/IVF and Genetic Center
1st Floor,Deshbandhu Complex.
Naudra Bridge,Jabalpur 482001 MP,INDIA
http://www.idealfertility.com Ph: +91 761 2627711, 00919826166952
Khamla square,Shivneri appt. Nagpur( second sundays of the month )
http://fertilityclinicindia.blogspot.com
Dear Dr. Banerji,
I am disappointed in your response to me. It’s odd because what drew me to your clinic was the praise that you were given by Sue on her ivfcost.net website. I wrote to you directly for a number of reasons including: 1). your response to Sue is dated September 2008 which is 1 1/2 years ago and I wanted current data; 2). my situation is different in that I am in need of an ivf procedure using an egg donor. As well, a friend said that best way to get a true sense of a clinic and the head doctor was to write them directly to see how the email would be answered to an individual. I guess that this was a good suggestion as I can only surmise that your thoughtful answers to Sue were due to the fact that you knew that everything was being published on a public blog. Too bad. I will be sure to update people with your latest response so that others can understand what your true attitude is towards overseas patients. Obviously, anyone travelling as far away from home as we would be doing – we are from Canada – should be researching as thoroughly as possible any clinic that they would be going to. For you to suggest that my research is both “useless and a waste of time” is outrageous and offensive and simply demonstrates to me the lack of indifference and insensitivity that you as a practioner seem to possess. I wonder how you would feel if your wife was seeking the same fertility treatments and tried to gather information and as a result was treated the way you have done to me. Remember, you are not doing me a favour – I am asking you to provide a service that you will be compensated for. I would think that part of the “package” is a back and forth dialogue that includes both patient and doctor getting to know each other.
-sent February 7, 2010.
Wow Rita, this really does show them in a different light! I am so please that you have taken the time to post the correspondence that you have had with them here, I’m sure it will help others. My feelings are definitely in line with yours – it’s an insult to say “writing and mailing is useless and wastage of time”!
Clearly this is NOT the clinic you will be going to but I wish you the very best of luck for whichever clinic you choose. Do let us know how you get on.
All the very best, and thank you again for sharing this.
Sue
dateMon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM
subjectRe: fertility treatment
hide details 1:06 AM (12 hours ago)
Dear Sue,
Today, the doctor sent the attached note of apology. I thought in fairness to him and the readers that I should include this, as well. However, in my opinion it is “too little too late”. His initial response reveals where he is really coming from. This note may be sincere however, I think it is damage control on his part.
Rita
Dear
I unconditionally apologise for hurting your feelings and sentiments..
After reading this ,if you still feel to contact me then talk to me directly to my cell +919826166952,I will let you know what experience and treatment I sometime get from overseas clients.
Hope I am slightly successful to reduce your anger.
Again sorry for my bad words.
Bye
-sent February 8, 2010
the egg of my wife is not increasing , I try IVF tyreatment in JayaBhatacharaya clinik Kolkatta but not success,because the egg is not increase, the age of my wife is 38years,and weight of my wife is 75 kg also.
Dear Sunil,
I have had a reply from Dr. D’Pankar Banerji at the Ideal Fertility Centre regarding you enquiry. Please see the response below.
All the best,
Sue
Dear
Your wife may need egg donation IVF
Bye
dear mr sunil
may i know what is her day 2 FSH? 75 KG SHOULD NOT BE A BIG PROBLEM OTHERWISE. sometimes the response is poor due to the stress itself which is caused by the preconceived idea that obesity is not going to give a good result.
in our centre many of our mothers with multiple babies are 70 kg +
mustaque
Thanks for the post.I learn something new…. Ok , I just want to take the opportunity to advise all pregnant ladies out there….. . within 2 weeks of pregnancy, you should go and see Gynaecologist (and not your regular doctor) to rule out ectopic pregnancy. This is from my experience.I just relized I was having ectopic after 9th week and luckyly it wasn’t too late.
i am child less and i want child my marrage date was 29.12.2006 till today we have no child can you halp us 9023050555
hi is it possible for a 47yr oldwoman to use her eggs to be put in a surrograte mother, what is the success rate for a 47 year old woman, have you ever used a 47year old womans eggs or older
I would like to know the total cost of IVF treatment including medicines .and Guarntee of suceesful treatment . i want to know best ivf centre.
Dear Vikas,
The postings for each clinic on the blog give you a guideline price for IVF, the exact price will depend on your individual circumstances and what medications you require.
There is no guarantee of success in IVF I’m afraid. It is a medical procedure that is dependent on many things from both the clinic and yourselves. You can get an idea of the success rates of individual clinics from their statistics but you have to be very careful of taking too much notice of these as clinics can calculate them differently.
As for which is the best IVF centre, well, I wish I knew!! I look at other peoples personal experience of the centres and how I feel about the way in which the doctors respond to my questions. I suppose if there was one “best” clinic then we would probably all be going there!
I wish you every luck in your journey, and sorry I have not been able to give you a definitive answer to your questions.
All the best,
Sue
i m 42 years old my wife 40, we did 6 times iui,what can we do now,we r from bangladesh
Could you tell me please, is this possible to have IVF despite of uterious has been removed a year ago. Is there possibility to have it.
contact me re surrogacy
I have been treated by Dr. Anoop Gupta in Delhi and have a 2 yr old son with me. He is one of the best doctors available in India (New Delhi). I just wish people with infertility related problems should visit to a speacialist like Dr. Gupta and not waste money on hit and trial methods suggested by doctors. I hope my information helps users worldwide.
eggs to be transferrred into a surrogate. advise costs. How to get to jabalpur?
name a contact person and email.
thanks
andrew
Hi Babita,
I have a reader, Vinee, who is struggling to post a comment but would like to ask you a question – please see below.
All the best,
Sue
From Vinee:
I actually wanted to ask Babita who posted a comment on July 15th 2010 on your post about IVF cost in India. Somehow, I am not able to comment but if you can communicate with her and ask her the total cost of IVF and how long did she stay in india, I will appreciate.
Thanks.
I want to know the best ivf clinic at gujarat india.
Hi Onawumi,
All the Indian clinic I have managed to get cost for are shown at http://www.ivfcost.net/tag/india.
All the best,
Sue
dear dr,
I am 42 yrs of age..gone through a very tough and unusual lifestyle…married for the fourth time..stayed with my partners for not more than 1-6 mnths each..my presnt husband is 53yrs of age,..before marriage he said he would love to have kids but now he is completely denying..we have regular intercourse but he makes it a point not to discharge insid.i am reallyb disturbed because it is just because i wanted to have a family i underwent 4th marriage.. as i lost my younger brother and sister who suffered from brain tumor..i am the only child of mty shatered parents..i belong to a good family background my could not fight with my destiny..now if i take divorce from him how can i go for this ivf..in the month of feb this i had undergone cystectomy(laproscopic) at ma saket new delhi..otherwise my periods have been very regular with no gynae problems so far..pls advise me how to go about it and what will be the discounted charges as i am not earning right now and there is no body who is going to support me..but es i would love to attain motherhood..hope tp get a favourable reply..Thanx regards..sonia
Respected sir, we are lesbians.am a good police officer in TN.want begate a child.please guide me to do the same sir. Thanking you sir.
do i take pregnancy procedure after IVF treatment in some other clinic ? pls. suggest.
hi,
I have gone twice for iui but there is not result so should i go for third time or take a chance to naturally i have gone through endosocopy for endeometric cycts. i will appreciate your reply.
vaishnavi
dear dr.
please i have 47 yr,i would like know some egg and about cost of treatment.i appreciate your reply.
luia
HI EVERY ONE IF ANY OF U KNOW OF CLINIC THAT DO DONOR EGG IN INDIA PLEASE POST INFO FOR ME PRICE. PLACE. AND PHONE IF U CAN. I WILL LIKE TO GO TO INDIA BUT I AM SCARED TO TRAVLE BY MY SELF ID NEVERY BEEN TO INDIA IF ANY ONE IS INSTRED IN GOING FORM THE UNIDTED STATE WE CAN GO TOGEATHER. IF ANY ONE WHO LIVE IN INDIA HOW CAN ADVISE ME PBLEAS POST. HOW MUCH DOES IVF WITH DONOR EGG COST. DO ANY KNOW OF A TRAVLE GUIDE PERSONAL IN INDIA IF I GO I WILL GIVE INFORMATION WHEN I COME BACK TANK YOU SUE FOR ALL U HAVE DONE ALSO IF ANY WHO LIVE IN INDIA AND WILL LIKE TO GUIDE ME WILL PAY FOR A GUIDE
Hi Doctor just wondering if u can tell me if u have available egg donors for icsi treatment my partner has low motility & after 3 ivf failures over past 3 years & trying to conceive for the past 4 years I am now 45 years & my eggs are no longer of sound quality,we are looking to do IVF ICSI using my partners sperm & a donor if u have donors available.Also could u please tell me the costs of the treatment,many thanks Sharon
i want toknow how much cost is requried for ivf babay. my wife needed achild through ivf. she is 52 years age .can be possible a child and information may kindly communicated to me. with regard.
with regards
narendra prakash
Dear Admin,
would like to add few questions while you ask to clinic. I believe that IVF is mixed experience with doctor and embryologist.
year of experience of embryologist,no of cases has been done so far, makes big impact while you select IVF center.
Also live birth rate counts .
would like to evaluate more centers in india
1.http://www.drmalpani.com
2. http://www.ihrivf.net
3.http://www.neotiahospital.com/genome/default.php
1. What type of treatment would i need because i dont normally ovulate,i dont know when i ovulate.
2. Did i need a referral letter to go to embassy or i will just go to embassy and a
apply that i want to come for treatment in india.
3. The cost,is it for the couples or the wife alone.
I would like to come to your clinic with my wife. I do not really know her age. She always tells me she is younger than me, who is 45 years old, but I doubt she might be older than me because when we talk about history I feel she is older than me. We do not have babies with her. We have been married for three years now, but no kids. I do have a kid outside marriage. My wife has undergone two surgeries in the uterus, I do not know what was wrong with her. She has a nice character. She likes my family and I can’t abandon her for another wife to have another kid. We are a modest family. I can engage myself for this treatment but I am doubting if we undergo this and it fails, we are going to live in very financial crisis. Advice
Iwould like to know if anyone have been to the clinic of Dr K Parpyani, MD in India? (LIFE SMILE BIOSCIENCES) He is in Delhi, If his clinic is good or what clinic would be best for me to go to in India.
Thank you
our was only issue that son was died in accident 6 year back,
after that tried for natural process.
but drs digonsis is that my wifes both felopen tube are bloked.
we did the treatment of re calnalisation, but tubes are still block.
now am age of 45 year,my wife age is 40 years.
we are staying near by nagpur.
can we get sucesss in ivf. wt will be the cost and hw much duration will required
Are all these hospitals that say if you are over 40 they suggest egg donation stead-fast in that? I know the chances go down, but I want my own biological child. If I’m going parent a child that is not my biological child then I would save myself the pain and agony of a long possibly difficult pregnancy and labor and just adopt. I’m 37 now, and reading all this has really depressed me. I thought I had a little more time… especially if I was going to do IVF. Am I just out of luck? Should I just give up on this dream and hate myself forever because I waited too long? I have PCOS and maybe I was deluding myself, but I was really counting on IVF. I had the mentality of… if all else fails, I can always do IVF when I’m 40. Now, I’m feeling devastated, and very sad about what I’ve read on this site.
Thanks for the information though.
Deni.
Hi Deni,
Not all clinics are strict about that, so don’t give up. There are a good number of clinics that will use your own eggs even after 40, but the chances of success do go down, as you say.
Don’t give up on your dream.
All the best,
Sue
I would like to know the total cost of the IVF treatment including medicines for the one cycle.
Dear Doctor ( )
Good Day
How are you ?
I came to know through net . I male 55 yrs Bangladeshi . no child . azoozpermia . testicular biopsy done and it was +ve ( Sperm was available) .Try to do I V F but not concept. It was 2008. My wife was 45 .
There is any treatment for me . I am a male nurse still working and wants to do 2nd marriage by December 2011. cost and arrangement everything I have to know .
Surgery for male infertility. Because testicular biopsy is ok . Its possible for me ?
I am Healthy .energetic, mild hypertension with medicine moduretic full profile ok. No diabetic .
I need your help . good suggestion
Thanks a lot
Md . Abdul Jabber
E-Mail/ 1. Jnaderlal@ hotmail.com
2. jablal2000@yahoo.com
Hi There
I live in Uk and am years of age, reading through your website it says that after the age of 38 to 39 you prefer that the eggs are donated. I already had 2 ICSI treatments in england and they have never recommened that I should use egg donation.
can you please let me know how much it will cost me and how long you take to carry out the treatment should we go ahead with it.
Many thanks
Lady and Gentlmen Good Afternon,
Please find below few other questions: -> How can I take an appointment? -> How long does the preparation for in vitro take? Actually, I am an active woman and I get only 1 month of vacation .. -> What about the housing once in ae (I live in Djibouti)? However, it has been 5 years that my husband and I have trying; but there was no success. If you have more informations which would help, please submit.
Thank you
Best regards, Nima Abdi.
hello,,can we arrange our own healthy young eggdonor and surrogat mother..
im doctor,,how can i get indian centers recognised by NHS.,
I am harsha gupta(36yrs) have 3 times failed ICSI method at INDORE.now we want to be surrogate parent.plz give detail &cost.
Hi my name is barbara. im looking into ivf my fertility doctor advised me for ivf. but i do not have that much money for that price here in california. so im hoping u can give more info. im 27 yrs old been trying for a baby for 6yrs and no luck i have one blocked tube and the left one has mild fluid that is preventing egge and sperm to meet. my boyfriend is 29 yrs old and has a son from previous relation. so i hope you can answer me soon thank you so much….